Reader Submission:
Here is the essence of this duplicitous Airline
price fixing. Before you scoff at it
or reject it, read the entire letter, then
our "Analysis" below.
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Say, I just read your article about the Dallas
conspiracy, and if you think that's
something,
just wait till you hear this. You wanted
more input on airline scams -- well
friend,
here it is. Shudder at it!
I was down in the States visiting some friends
of mine, and we were talking about my recent
trip to Australia. I was telling them how
I got out there and back for under a $1000
Canadian -- about $750 US -- and they said
"Nah man, no way! It's way more than
that. You've gotta have your figures wrong".
So I used their computer to get on the Net
-- logged onto my favourite travel agencies
in Vancouver, and pulled up the fares from
Vancouver to Sydney. But I'll be dammed if
they didn't come up all in the range of $1200
to $1800 US Dollars!!! So I said, Hey, what
the hell gives here. I'm logging in to my
travel agents site in Canada, and I'm getting
fares from Vancouver to Sydney, and they
are coming up in American dollars??? What
the blazes does American dollars have to
do with a trip from Canada to Australia,
then back to Canada? What kind of double
dealing is going on here!!
Well then, I tried it again, and I'll be
hosed if it didn't happen again. But this
time I was paying more attention. So I watched
what happened. Sure I got onto my site in
Van -- www. cdntravel.ca -- you can tell
it's a Canadian website by the .CA extension
(I've just given you a sub name, not the
real site).
But then I noticed that at this Canadian
website, when I clicked on "get fare
quotes", then I was rerouted to some .COM address -- nothing
to do with my original site. It was the fare
"finder" that was giving me the
American dollars. So here I was, dialing
so to speak from America, and getting these
over-inflated American fares for a trip plan
that had nothing to do with America -- why, it shouldn't
have even entered into the picture. After
all, if you fly from Dallas to London, do
they quote the fare in Mexican Pesos? Of
course not. So what the hell gives??
Well, the answer never came until I got back
home. And sure as saved, when I did the very
same fare search from my home in Van, sure
as all get out it came up in the right dollars
-- Canadian of course. And there were the
fares, just as I've told you -- less than
$1000 Cdn (only $750 American) to fly from
Van to Sydney return. It was too much to
figure out at the time.
Now I've had time to think on it, I've figured
it out. When you are in America (i.e. dialing
from a US address on the Net), somehow the
airlines detects your IP address as coming
from the States -- so they send you on to
some American site where you get these outrageous
fares -- God man, some fares to Sydney and
back were upwards of $3000.00 -- Well, Canadians
would just laugh 'em off the street!
But when you call in from a True Canadian
address, then the airlines route you to the
proper place, and you get the real Canadian rates that you really get when you
get on the plane. So these airlines companies
are ripping you Americans off -- they know
you're a bunch of suckers -- you watch that
Paul Hogan stuff about Crocodile Dundee,
you get all het up, and you pay those God-awful
prices.
I'm telling you people in the States, these
airlines are really taking you for suckers
-- and you are, to pay those kinds of high
prices. We Canadians wouldn't put up with
it. If you don't believe me, just get on
the net from a US address, log onto any Canadian
travel agent you can find, do a fare search
to Sydney or any other overseas spot, and
sure as you're on, you'll get some outrageous
fare in American dollars -- almost twice what we pay here in Canada. And you don't
even know you're being ripped!
Now, personally I don't mind them taking
you for fools, but what really gets
me is
I'm Canadian, and when I'm in the States,
I can't get the real fares that I should
be getting as a Canadian, just because
I'm
dialing in from a US address. It's
really
criminal, I think. The airlines need
to be
raked over the coals for this one --
seems
to me they have some real fraud scheme
they're
pulling on you fellas.
Good luck, and do try what I said. You'll
find they are scamming you all the way to
the bank.
G. J. , B.C. Canada.
Received, Apr. 7, 2002 |
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Analysis:
After we took this letter seriously, we assigned
someone to do exactly what this Canadian
guy said. And -- you guessed it -- he was
exactly right. We cannot claim that we tried
every Canadian travel agent, but we can tell
you that whenever we got to a .CA Canadian
website, and did a search on prices of any
overseas destinations, we always got rerouted by the "fare
finder" application to an American .COM
website, and the fare came up in American
dollars. And indeed, when we actually placed some
calls to Canada, we found out that these
fares quoted in American dollars -- for international
travel that did not even include an American stopover, or destination
-- they were all much higher that what Canadians
were paying for the same flights. It was
stunning!
Conclusion:
As far as we could determine, Americans
are
indeed being taken for fools by the
Airline
companies. As best we could figure
out, from
watching the IP addresses change, that
it
is not the Canadian sites that do the
rerouting.
It seems like ANY site you pick to
get fares
-- American or Canadian -- they all
link
to some central Airline Fare Server
which
determines the fares. Built into that
server,
or group of server applications, is
some
kind of IP or domain detect routine.
If it
finds that your domain is actually
in the
U.S., you are dished up a whole suite
of
over-inflated, extortionary prices
for international
travel -- always in American dollars.
We
could never get an international fare
to
come up in the real currency where
the flight
originated from -- like Canada, etc.
So the
airlines are second-guessing you.
When we called other people to check the
same fares from their countries, sure enough,
the fares not only came up in their currency,
but in almost ALL cases, the fares were LOWER
than what you pay in the U.S. for the SAME
ticket, even if the flight itinerary has
NOTHING whatsoever to do with the United
States.
Stunned, we can only conclude that
the Airline
companies are all conspiring together,
in
some huge International Cartel of Price fixing and
selective extortion, to conduct wholesale consumer fraud and
price gouging of the markets that they feel
will pay the greatest amount of money --
namely, us poor "suckers" in America,
whom the airlines obviously take for the
most gullible fools alive!
Resolution:
It has taken us some time to actually publish
this article, because we wanted to be sure
of the facts before putting it on the web.
Now we are convinced, after considerable
thought on the issue, that this kind of covert
pricing conspiracy is nothing short of a
criminal activity. In all seriousness, people
during the first half of the century were
tried, convicted and jailed for activities
like this, under the name of the "mafia"
and like organizations. But now, major airline
companies can do exactly the same thing,
on a much larger scale, much more covertly,
and never get caught at it -- because the
poor old Federal Government is either too
stupid to figure it out, too afraid to act
on it, or too bought-out to care.
What a pathetic state of affairs, and how
ashamed we are to have to report that this
kind of blatant discrimination is going on.
Sure, airline companies will hotly deny any
wrongdoing whatsoever, or they will justify
their actions with some smooth, placative
double talk, but at the bottom line, it IS
extortion. Look up the legal definition,
and you will find it fits perfectly.
So what can we do about it? Well, we've done
our part. We have informed the world via
this site. Now it is up to you to do your
part -- check it out too. Get on the Internet,
and try to disprove our findings. As we said,
we could not be exhaustive in all possibilities,
but what we found DID corroborate his report.
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Here we will post any additional, germane,
reader input:
If you have checked this out, and have any
factual information to add to this horrendous
realization, please submit it to us, so all
readers can be apprised.
We await your constructive assistance.................
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Latest Update Feb 28, 2004
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